Present Location | East Lancashire |
County Location | Greater Manchester |
Designed For | LYR |
Build Location | Newton Heath |
Diagram number | 21 |
Lot number | S8 |
Type | SAL |
First Number | 12 |
Later Numbers | 10843 |
Gauge | 4ft 8 1/2in |
Wheel Arrangement | Body only |
Original Underframe | No |
Original Bogies/Wheelsets | No |
Additional Notes | W pre 1932 (according to 'Lancashire and Yorkshire Passenger Stock' by R W Rush). G near Wrexham. P??, to Llangollen 1997. One door has LMS '3' and No. 13926 internally. Many fittings in store. *Relatively* little structural attention needed. To private site at Ash Parva in Shropshire early 2003 - with LMS Fish Van 40284 underframe (qv). 04/19: carriage body saved from being scrapped and, 05/19, temporary storage space found at the Spotland Bridge Mill site of Crewe Industrial Services Ltd, Mellor Street, Rochdale. (40284 underframe moved to Stainmore Railway, Kirkby Stephen). By 01/23: moved to Bury on East Lancashire Railway - plan is to mount it on a wagon underframe. |
External Structural Condition | Poor but Substantially Complete |
Internal Structural Condition | Poor and Incomplete |
Underframe Condition | Not Applicable |
External Finish | Poor but Substantially Complete |
Internal Finish | Poor and Incomplete |
Degree of External Originality | As left Departmental service |
Degree of Internal Originality | As left Departmental service |
Degree of Underframe/Running Gear Originality | Not Applicable |
Degree of External Authenticity | Very Good |
Degree of Internal Authenticity | Fair |
Degree of Underframe Authenticity | Not Applicable |
Rarity | Unique |
Historical Importance | Exceptionally Important |
Storage | Secure Open |
Operating | No |
Survey Date | 23/05/2000 |
Surveyor | Ray Sowerby |
Photo Date | 23/05/2000 |
At Risk | No |
Date Record Last Updated | 15/01/2023 |