BR 1659 Mk 1 RBR rebuilt as Full Kitchen Car built 1960

BR 1659 Mk 1 RBR rebuilt as Full Kitchen Car built 1960

BR 1659 Mk 1 RBR rebuilt as Full Kitchen Car built 1960
BR 1659 Mk 1 RBR rebuilt as Full Kitchen Car built 1960

 

Present Location Crewe LNWR Heritage Company
County Location Cheshire East
Designed For BR
Built by Pressed Steel
Diagram number 24
Lot number 30628
Type RBR
First Number 1659
Later Numbers CAMELOT
Present Number Sc80044
Current Livery BR Crimson Lake and Cream
Gauge 4ft 8 1/2in
Wheel Arrangement 4-w bogies
Original Underframe Yes
Original Bogies/Wheelsets Yes
Additional Notes P.1997 by Wessex Trains, initially based at Mid Hants Railway. In 1998 Wessex Trains base changed to Crewe Carriage Shed from where it moved to Lancastrian Carriage & Wagon Ltd at Heysham Business Park, Middleton, near Heysham for overhaul. On completion named CAMELOT and moved to West Coast Railway Company, Carnforth where Wessex Trains were based from Autumn 1998. Autumn 1999: returned to Mid Hants Railway (still owned by Wessex Trains) for use in their mainline set. 2002: moved to Lancastrian Carriage & Wagon Ltd at Heysham Business Park, Middleton, near Heysham for a further overhaul, then included in Old Oak Common based Wessex Trains 'Excalibur Express' set. At Old Oak Common until its closure, then based at Eastleigh. To Carnforth by 04/12. By 08/16: at Crewe LNWR Heritage Company in ownership of Locomotive Services Ltd. 05/19: rebuild completed to provide full on-board catering in 'Saphos Trains' set; livery changed from pseudo-Pullman (see additional photo below) to BR Crimson Lake and Cream.
Owner Locomotive Services Ltd
External Structural Condition Very Good
Internal Structural Condition Very Good
Underframe Condition Very Good
External Finish Very Good
Internal Finish Very Good
Degree of External Originality As built/last Passenger rebuild (BR or before)
Degree of Internal Originality Conversion/rebuild/reproduction
Degree of Underframe/Running Gear Originality As built/last Passenger rebuild (BR or before)
Degree of External Authenticity Good
Degree of Internal Authenticity Not Applicable
Degree of Underframe Authenticity Very Good
Rarity Many
Historical Importance no Immediate Importance/Not Applicable
Storage Secure Open
Operating Yes
Survey Date 21/01/2002
Surveyor Byron Chamberlain
Photo Date 16/08/2023
Photo by Nick Felton
At Risk No
Date Record Last Updated 01/10/2023

Byron Chamberlain 06/04/2003: earlier livery as RBR
Byron Chamberlain 06/04/2003: earlier livery as RBR

Steve West 04/08/2021: view of other side after rebuild
Steve West 04/08/2021: view of other side after rebuild


 

 










 






 

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