Present Location | Peak Rail |
County Location | Derbyshire |
Designed For | LYR |
Build Location | Newton Heath |
Diagram number | 90; 150 |
Lot number | E32 |
Type | SPEC |
First Number | 247 |
Later Numbers | 5902, 10825, 45017 |
Present Number | 10825 |
Current Livery | LMSR |
Gauge | 4ft 8 1/2in |
Wheel Arrangement | 4-w bogies |
Original Underframe | Yes |
Original Bogies/Wheelsets | Yes |
Additional Notes | Built as 8 compt 2-lav TK Lot W30, then in 1917 converted to Staff Car B No 5902 for US Continental Ambulance Train 59. 1923: rebuilt by LMS as Medical Officer's staff medical examination car numbered 10825 - used for conducting eyesight tests etc. P 1972 by Historic Rolling Stock Group at Severn Valley Railway but to Dinting 74-90 and then to Museum of Science and Invention in Manchester. There restoration to 1923 Medical Saloon condition was carried out except for one end and a 10ft length of one side which were left unfinished to show public to how a carriage was constructed (see main photo). 01/18: ownership transferred to LMS Carriage Association - and 04/18 moved to Peak Rail site at Rowsley South for restoration to be completed: flexible large saloon will have appropriate seating and in conjunction with the two smaller saloons will allow daily running with disabled access, as well as use for dining, private parties, education and training, hospitality and filming contracts. 07/18: there is now a You Tube video on the history and restoration of this vehicle - at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBP3h_8HHs0
By 12/23: restoration still in progress: cladding removed and stripped to framing. |
Owner | LMS Carriage Association |
External Structural Condition | Good |
Internal Structural Condition | Good |
Underframe Condition | Good |
External Finish | Very Good |
Internal Finish | Fair |
Degree of External Originality | Much replaced/reproduced material |
Degree of Internal Originality | Much replaced/reproduced material |
Degree of Underframe/Running Gear Originality | As left Departmental service |
Degree of External Authenticity | Good |
Degree of Internal Authenticity | Fair |
Degree of Underframe Authenticity | Good |
Rarity | Unique |
Historical Importance | Some Importance |
Storage | Secure Open |
Operating | No |
Survey Date | 15/07/2005 |
Surveyor | Kevin Stroud |
Photo Date | 15/05/2018 |
Photo by | Paul Abell |
At Risk | No |
Date Record Last Updated | 06/02/2024 |