NER 1661 Clerestory Third Saloon, later Inspection Saloon Built 1904

NER 1661 Clerestory Third Saloon, later Inspection Saloon Built 1904

Present Location Kirkby Stephen
County Location Cumbria
Designed For NER
Diagram Number H, C
Type TZ
First Number 1661
Later Numbers 21661, E902179E, DE902179, 99750, KWVR 22
Present Number 21661
Livery NER Teak
Gauge 4ft 8 1/2in
Wheel Arrangement 4-w bogies
Original Underframe Yes
Original Bogies Yes
Additional Notes Six-wheel Third Saloon built 1871 for Stockton & Darlington Railway; to NER 1876. Inspection Saloon for Locomotive Superintendent Edward Fletcher from 1884. Then rebuilt to 40 ft vehicle on bogies 1904. Also used by the Worsdell brothers and Raven on the NER, and on the LNER by Thompson and Peppercorn when Deputy CMEs. W 1969. Featured in the film 'The Railway Children' as 'The Old Gentleman's Saloon'. On loan to NRM 19??-?? and to NYMR 1991, then back to Keighley and Worth Valley Railway. Was at Waterloo International Station (platform 23) from mid 2010 to January 2011 for stage production of 'The Railway Children'. Usually on display at Oxenhope Exhibition building. Attention needed to underframe. 08/23: returned to operational use. 06/25: moved from Keighley and Worth Railway on hire to Stainmore Railway, Kirkby Stephen East.
External Structural Condition Good
Internal Structural Condition Good
Underframe Condition Good
External Condition Very Good
Internal Finish Very Good
Degree of External Originality Some replaced/reproduced material
Degree of Internal Originality As left Departmental service
Degree of Underframe/Running Gear Originality Some replaced/reproduced material
Degree of External Authenticity Good
Degree of Internal Authenticity Not Applicable
Degree of Underframe Authenticity Not Applicable
Rarity Unique
Importance Of some Importance
Storage Secure Building
Operational Yes
Date Inspected 28/08/2006
Inspected By Kevin Stroud
Date of Image 05/03/2022
Photo Taken By Paul Holroyd
At Risk No
Scrapped No
Record Last Updated 22/09/2025

Steve West 04/06/2012: earlier view

     








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